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Alternate Ottoman Partition by rubberduck3y6 Alternate Ottoman Partition by rubberduck3y6
A map showing part of the Middle East roughly 20 years after an alternate (and harsher) parition of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I. Rather than just Britain and France grabbing territories, Italy, Greece and Russia also get chunks of the former Empire either through direct annexation (Italy) or Council of Nations (League of Nations equivalent) mandates (Russia, France, Britain) or both (Greece). In addition, the Turkish Straits and Suez Canal are internationalised, with Smyrna (Izmir) becoming a Free City due to disagreements between Greece and Italy. By the time this map is set, Russia is recovering from its civil war and looking to reassert its influence over its former possessions - Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia (western Amernia was a Russian CoN mandate, while the rest had been annexed to Russia during the 19th century).
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stevecali90 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
All I can say here is, I kinda feel sorry for Lebanon. =(

Also, isn't Russia Communist now? Or does this involve a POD before (OTL's) World War I?
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The POD is during WW1 and Russia doesn't go communist.

Lebanon was part of Syria (under French administration) until 1946 OTL.
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NomadicSky Featured By Owner May 29, 2014
what ethnic group would be in Taurus? And are there still large populations of Turks in those territories?
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:iconmyhomelandturkey:
MyHomeLandTURKEY Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014
What the F*ck is that ??   Turkey is the same , from 1923 to now.    This map is wrong %85.   Please research the history , please research whatever do you heard. Otherwise , you know everything WRONG and You can't interpret history and people  CORRECTLY.   Thanks for reading.
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theirishisraeli Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2015  New member
This is ALTERNATE History.
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:iconnomadicsky:
NomadicSky Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014
Chill is just fiction. the same thing is done to the United States in some alternate history maps.
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mstephan Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2014
This map is completly right but it was valid only for a few years with the Treaty of Sevres. Indeed, the Greece was later expanded even further through the war in Asia Minor where he would win if Turkey hadn't been helped by the Soviet Union, France and Italy.
Hellenic victories in Asia Minor
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Gajeelfangirl101 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Student General Artist
Syria: Hey theres me! *She smirks* I did exist back then, Turkey!
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yuman11 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013
good work
and do u like history
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! And yeah! :)
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yuman11 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013
 realy i like it 2
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MyHomeLandTURKEY Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014
hey man ; this map isn't TRUE .  Please research that.  you shouldn't  believe everybody for the first heard.   Research everything for learn the Truth. 
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theirishisraeli Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2015  New member
Are you a troll?
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yuman11 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014
whut
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CyberEagleWarrior Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Student Interface Designer
Fascinating map but I find it unlikely that the Italians would be able to hold on to the Aegea. They were the first ones to bolt from the area and provided arms to the Turkish nationalists who would have spelled the end of the Ottoman Empire and replaced it with the modern Turkish republic. And what of the Assyrians? They WERE promised an independent state in the northeastern corner of Iraq surrounding Nineveh but they were betrayed and forced to join the Iraqi state. And why would there be a Taurus Republic? What people would be composed out of there?
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I can't remember my exact reasoning/thought process from when I made the map. But I can remember that the Taurus Republic and Syria were both given to France as Council of Nations' mandate territories with the Taurus Republic comprising the non-Arab French-governed territories so it's population is majority Turk.
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Matsky Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
Actually, the people of that republic are Armenian.
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Looking again, I think the Taurus Republic would be ethnically mixed with the population made up of Turks, Kurds, Turkmens, Armenians (remember this is after WW1), Arabs and Circassians.
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Matsky Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013
And the Taurus Republic would have had a positive influence in the Middle East.
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Mangagirl666 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Looking at this map as a Turk :( i only can say Thank god for Ataturk :D
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:iconnomadicsky:
NomadicSky Featured By Owner May 29, 2014
Ataturk was quite the man.
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Mangagirl666 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
He was :)
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MyHomeLandTURKEY Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014
hadi onlar inanıyo bu haritanın doğru olduğuna da , sen nasıl inanırsın ya.. hiç mi tarih okumadın , hiç mi merak etmedin be. 1941'de ülkemizin sınırları böylemiydi ya.. 1923'te ülke kurulduğunda zaten şu anki sınırlarımızla (Hatay hariç) aynıydı.  biraz tarihimizi araştır yaf..

** I write that in Turkish Language for think you are Turkish. If you are not Turkish and not know Turkish , never mind that :)   but you should know that ; this map is % 95 WRONG. Please research the history of the Middle-East and the World.  thanks for reading..
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Mangagirl666 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Akili, yorumumu bidaha okusana bu haritanin dogru oldugunu veya inandigimi nerde geri okuyabiliyorsun ? Atamiza sukretim Kotu birseymi bu?  Sen benim tarihime laf atmadan git kendi ingilizceni gelistir.
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TomBombardier Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2011
Wasn't it that the British wanted a Chaldean Kingdom and a Kurdish Kingdom, though the Turks and IRaqis each took one of the lands? Where is the Italian colony mentioned in the key?
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I haven't heard of any plans for a Chaldean/Assyrian/Syriac state but there definately were plans for a Kurdish state (although not as big as on the map), but you could be right.

Turkey did take the land that the French and British had planned as a Kurdish state (along with a large part of Armenia and other areas). Iraq was only created after WW1 and it's borders were drawn by the European powers.This is just guessing, but perhaps the reason a Kurdish state was never created was because it's core area is in the area taken by Turkey and the Iraqi area was meant to be added to the ex-Turkish Kurdish state.

The Italian colony is the sliver of Libya in the bottom left of the map under the key.
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AssyrianKing17 Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2010
Why do I always see Kurdistan in these alternate maps?

Doesn't anyone know that we Assyrians and Chaldeans are the rightful owners of Mesopotamia?!

Not Kurds!
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner May 30, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
:iconfacepalmplz:
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AssyrianKing17 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
AHOOO

The trash won't give up.
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
The ignorance...
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CaptainVoda Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Pontus is not in Greece?
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The Pontus state on the map is named after the Pontus Mountains and is under Greek control, although it's not actually part of Greece.
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CaptainVoda Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I see...
very interesting alternative map :D
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! :)
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ApathyCharacteR Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2010
surreal.
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How so?
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cokcirkin Featured By Owner May 23, 2010
1941 ?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2010
Nice, where does Britain give one of it's more important political bargaining chips to the Council?
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you're referring to the Suez Canal then it was originally an Anglo-French enterprise and (according to Wikipedia) it was a neutral zone under British protection. The formal internationalisation of the Canal was the result of French and Russian pressure on Britain through the Council of Nations, although with British possessions on either side of the Canal, Britain would still be in a position to informally control it.
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lamnay Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2010
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the info.
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Sapiento Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Looks like an actual atlas picture.
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