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Alternate North America by rubberduck3y6 Alternate North America by rubberduck3y6
An alternate North America with a different US-Canadian border and where the Southern Secession was accompanied by a Western Secession (the Republic of the Californias). Texas later seceeded from the CSA, forming the Republic of Colorado.
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bruiser128 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013
My theory for this coming about is because the Pig War escalates into ACTUAL conflict.
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
Nice!
Reminds me of something I made wayyy back in the day; my first upload here in fact: somerandomminion.deviantart.co…
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LinnState2014 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
Sweet Missouri is still a state in the United States
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PictishWarlord13 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
I second that.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Student Digital Artist
The Republic of Colorado is wrong
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you mean the name, it's named after the Colorado River that flows in the Gulf of Mexico, NOT the longer one that flows/flowed into the Gulf of California.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
No I was refering to the fact that it isnt Texas anymore.
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh you mean it should the Republic of Texas?

I didn't call it that because on of it's states is called Texas, but if you can come up with an alternate name for that state then the country could be called the Republic of Texas I suppose.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Jacinto, Houston, Austin, Lamar, Tejas, Brazos, Sabine, Allamo, Gonzales, Caddoes, Atakapan,Wichita, North Texas,East Texas, etc

Im a Texan. Its a thing
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AnEnemySpy Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2011
Why is Colorado that far south?
It looks like I'm a canadian in this world.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I REALLY hope you answer. Is there another Colorado River in the northeast other than the ones in California and Texas???
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AnEnemySpy Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
There are other rivers called the Colorado in Argentina, Bolivia, Costa Rica, Chile and Brazil. None in the northeast. Colorado is a Spanish name meaning "colored red." Since the Spanish didn't colonize the northeast, there wouldn't be any rivers with Spanish names there.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
The reason Im asking is because a lot of alt his maps put colorado in northern idaho, and im not sure why. Tbh, plenty of names in the northeast came from Spanish explorers who claimed the region for the Spanish. Montana is a good example
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AnEnemySpy Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
Montana is in the west. The Northeast is where places like New York and Maine are.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Sorry, typo. Still, a lot of maps put Colorado in the northwest, around northern Idaho and western Montana. Now that Ive had a chance to think about it, it makes sense since "Colorado could be used to describe anywhere in the Rockies. I guess it wasnt a river, hmm
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
See above, Canadian.
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platinum2094 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2010
Why would it be the Republic of Colorado if it was the Republic of TEXAS?
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's named after this Colorado River: [link](Texas)
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Darn! Seems DA doesn't like brackets in links. It's the Colorado River in Texas anyway.
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platinum2094 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2011
I see where you are coming from on that point,but to be honest i would still believe in a different point. Where it would be something like the Republic of Texas was never annexed into the United States or during the American Civil War instead of seceding with the C.S.A., Texas instead seceded into the Republic of Texas. Still it is your view of an alternate history and your map, and it is a lot different than many other maps on da.
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Aenek-Lycaon Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2010
Love the map. I have a small biff with oregon joining the Califonias (there was a large movement for a "Cascadia" at the time, which included mostly Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia), but other then that, great work :)
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The Republic of the Californias was created during the 'Western Secession' and was west coast movement (Washington's very far away, with sparsely settled 'desert' in the middle). I'm not sure how strong and form of the Cascadia movement would be in this timeline, with the areas of Vancouver and Seattle united in the Canadian province of New Albion.
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Aenek-Lycaon Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2010
Kk, gottcha
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Alohasoy Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2010
Why do you have Oklahoma remaining a part of the Confederacy? I would think its largely Native American population would be happier independent, or at least a part of Texas or the more accepting United States.
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pytko3 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2010
Why would the Indians in Oklahoma want to be part of the United States? When has the Government in Washington ever kept it's promises to them?
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Alohasoy Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2010
I don't know, I guess it makes more sense to me for them to want to be a part of the US than the (presumably racist) Confederacy. Actually, on second thought, Texas is what makes the most sense to me as a partner, maybe in a sort of loose union?
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pytko3 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2010
The U.S. would be no less racist or Hostile to the Indians. It would probably be more so to the Indians, for helping the Confederates.
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rubberduck3y6 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
During the Southern War of Independence, the Confederacy captured Indian Territory, which they claimed. After the war it was admitted to the CSA as the State of Oklahoma.

IIRC, some Native Americans owned slaves and as for the North being less racist, look what happened in the Indian Wars in real life.

When Texas left the Confederacy Oklahoma remained in the CSA as a kinda 'default position'.
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pytko3 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2010
Exactly My point the U.S. would have wiped them out, and taken their land, just as they did in our reality after the civil war. The North would not have treated them better, so they are in fact, better off beholden to the government in Richmond.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Student Digital Artist
The natives of the Indian territory openly sided with the Confederacy. The Confederate government offered them more rights in exchange for compliance which they gave gladly. Sequoya btw, not Oklahoma
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CheeseburgerTom Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014
The CSA also agreed to honor the tribes treaties with the US by continuing their payments in gold instead of the fiat money equivalent of the gold's worth which the US decided to switch to at the start of the war.  In the end it accomplished little as the Indian Territory was the scene of conflicts that very much embodied brother against brother.  Fun trivia fact Stan Waite, the last CSA general to surrender, was an Indian.
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SavageLycan Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Woah. This reminds me a ton of something I did ages ago: [link]

Great minds think alike I suppose. Nice stuff.
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